Posts by My MILs worst nightmare, a nonJW

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Bush's war on terrorism a failure?

by frankiespeakin in

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i think bush's method of fighting terrorism only creates more terrorism.

the us government has acted like a terrorist to the people in iraq, such actions canonly lead to more justification in the minds of would be terrorist.

My MILs worst nightmare, a nonJW

If you are in the US military, you are required to fight or kill who your governement sends you to fight or kill, independent thinking is discouraged when it comes to the morality or wrong or rightness of the conflict which the government is invovled in. I prefere not to be a fighting robot programed by the government. I don't think me making such statement requires a lot of research for it to be true.

You are only talking about you. You are not being asked to join the military. It is currently a volunteer force. You devoted a great deal of your life to what you felt was a higher goal or duty. You are understandably pissed off about how that turned out. It is possible however that other people can have what they believe is a higher call of duty...one that we may not prefer for ourselves....but we can show them the proper respect for their decision and not denegrate it because we don't understand it. The coast guard is military. I'm sure you couldn't help but feel a little something when they single handedly rescued thousands after Katrina.

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US election procedures

by sass_my_frass in

i'm a devoted west wing fan, and watching the sixth series at the moment.

i can't understand what is going on when the current democrat vp is running against six other democrat candidates in elections in new hampshire and iowa.

what are they trying to win?

My MILs worst nightmare, a nonJW

A big deal is made about the results in Iowa and New Hampshire because of the early momentum it gives a candidate. 13 of the last 14 presidential candidates won at least one of those states. You may have 16 candidates to begin with, but the field is quickly narrowed depending how the candidates do in those initial states. The Democrats are adding a couple of states this year to fall either between or right after Iowa and NH. This will be important, because if one of those states is South Carolina which has a nearly 50% African American vote, then Barack Obama could get an early boost in his battle with Hillary Clinton.

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Bush's war on terrorism a failure?

by frankiespeakin in

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friends

i think bush's method of fighting terrorism only creates more terrorism.

the us government has acted like a terrorist to the people in iraq, such actions canonly lead to more justification in the minds of would be terrorist.

My MILs worst nightmare, a nonJW

What would spending time with the military culture, have to do with changing my thinking about flag waving and patriotism? I see patriotism as a hinderance to peace, and something that blinds people to support whatever what ever war or conflict thier government gets invovled in. As far as being in the military I could never be a part of it because you are forced to fight even if you don't agree with the what your country is fighting for, I'd never would want to kill somebody just because the government say I have too.
A patriotic soldier is basically a brain dead robot who will kill because his government tells him to, he has given up his rights to decide and put his trust in the government to tell him who to kill, to me that is being brain dead.

I am going to take you and your comments seriously.

If you spent time with the military culture you would understand how they think, their motivation, what makes them tick. It would challenge your intellectually lazy assertions (most likely formed when you were under the control of the WTS), that you have put absolutely no effort into researching or dispelling.

The hawks of the Bush admin were those without military experience. The military understands war. The generals are not a bunch of warmongers. Their higher call to duty is not based on political party or loyalty to a particular president.

You don't need to become a soldier, because there are others who gladly do it for all Americans. You have to do absolutely nothing. But it would be proper for you as a citizen of this country to take the time to learn something about the citizens who defend its borders.

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Bush's war on terrorism a failure?

by frankiespeakin in

jw
friends

i think bush's method of fighting terrorism only creates more terrorism.

the us government has acted like a terrorist to the people in iraq, such actions canonly lead to more justification in the minds of would be terrorist.

My MILs worst nightmare, a nonJW

Sorry but patriotism, and flag wavers always struck me as braindead

If you had the opportunity to spend any amount of time with the military culture, the soldiers who serve and their families....I have no doubt that you would progress beyond that statement, which is based on ignorance.

You make these grandiose pleas to understand the Muslim culture, yet you do nothing to understand your own.

On a brighter note ......Have a great Thanksgiving!

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Bush's war on terrorism a failure?

by frankiespeakin in

jw
friends

i think bush's method of fighting terrorism only creates more terrorism.

the us government has acted like a terrorist to the people in iraq, such actions canonly lead to more justification in the minds of would be terrorist.

My MILs worst nightmare, a nonJW

Part of settling conflict is taking the other side into consideration.

I agree the diplomacy is necessary and important. It does apparently take a rocket scientist to know that you don't take the side of the enemy just because you don't like the policies of your president. Quite an over reaction in my opinion.

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Bush's war on terrorism a failure?

by frankiespeakin in

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friends

i think bush's method of fighting terrorism only creates more terrorism.

the us government has acted like a terrorist to the people in iraq, such actions canonly lead to more justification in the minds of would be terrorist.

My MILs worst nightmare, a nonJW

The Muslims world already have animosity towards the US because of thier support of Isreal, among other things.

So what. Why should the US apologize for supporting Israel? The Palestinians have always been treated as the lowest of the low in the Arab world.....by whom? .....by the rest of the Muslim world. The Palestinians are pawns for the rest of the Muslim world.

Your post seems to indicate that the US should be overly concerned with how we are viewed by the Muslim countries. In fact the tone of your post seems to indicate that the US foreign policy should be dictated by the public opinion of foreign nations.

I disagree, I think the US should decide our foreign policy.

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Stilla's thanksgiving poll (apologies to ozziepost)

by stillajwexelder in

so at the bookgroup, the study coductor gives us all a stern warning.

if we receive a turkey - refuse it.

dont accept xmas dinner invitations from work etc.

My MILs worst nightmare, a nonJW

Because it was in lieu of a Thanksgiving turkey, it probably amounted to less that $50..... so unlike a huge Xmas bonus which she would keep quiet about....I pick

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Self-rightous witnesses? no......

by mariposa in

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i was thinking about how i left "the truth" yesterday and got to wondering about the couple of sisters who were directly involved in the beginning of the end for me.

i know it was because of things they personally did to me that led me to believe witnesses were not "a lovable brotherhood".

and i know, they know of the things they did as well.. so here's the thing, i bet they don't feel the least bit guilty or even bad about it.

My MILs worst nightmare, a nonJW

My MIL who is currently 73, is one of 6 siblings who were raised and remain JW's. Between them, they have raised 17 children as JW's including my wife. Of the 17 kids only one remains an active JW and she is on her way out. What does my MIL have to say about this phenomenon? It is all the kids fault.

She was pretty insulted when after shunning my wife, I told her that the religion of her youth had failed her as a mother.

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Worst Jw reasonings of all time

by drew sagan in

well, let's all pick out our favorite 'best of the worst'.

teaching found in the publications that just are on the total brink of absurdity.

my vote is in for this 'striking parallel' between the time peroid of jesus life and the 1914-1918 time peroid.

My MILs worst nightmare, a nonJW

Worst reasoning? The claim of being God's inspired organization and the subsequent explanation of the FDS appointing the Governing Body.

Close #2: Because the early congregation was theocratic and inspired, then if the current JW organization is theocratic it must also be inspired.

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Impossible situation! Can it ever work?

by smily in

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well, things have moved on...my jw man has been agonizing over whether he should be seeing me or not?!

if i was a jw it would all be different?!

is that not like saying if i was not "black,american,german,white ect" surely this is racism of some kind?

My MILs worst nightmare, a nonJW

Ok so we are doomed!!! Does that give me the right to give up so easily?

Yes

If he is dating me and risking all perhaps he has doubt? of course we are doomed anyway...but at least I can live knowing I tried......

He is not risking a thing. Absolutely nothing. You on the other hand are risking everything.

You seem to view love in a romantic fashion i.e. love conquers all, love will find a way....I am romantic, but I also have lived long enough to know that love is.....well it feels good and it makes you do crazy things and feel crazy thoughts, which is cool no doubt.

Remember the movie Titanic.....well they were in love right? Yea and look what happened to him. Romeo and Juliet....look what happened to them. Love conquers nothing, except maybe our logic

You are attempting to start a relationship, and look at the shadow the JW's religion is already casting on the situation. This is a big clue. Don't drink the poison.